A Man Goes to a Public Restroom and Gets Trapped in a Time Paradox: “Stalled” [Video]

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Ruthlessly ambitious business executive Pete is on his way to an important meeting when he realizes he’s running late. As he pops into the restroom, he’s rude on the phone to his co-worker and he’s short-tempered with the janitor, revealing cut-throat selfishness and entitlement.

When he’s in the stall, he sees a strange message written on the toilet paper and then someone peeking into his stall. Investigating the sounds of a scuffle outside, he realizes he’s been locked into the bathroom — and realizes the person peeking into his stall was himself. And he can’t escape… until he’s unlocked to the temporal paradox he’s found himself in. But doing that means confronting his worst enemy: himself.

Written and directed by Matt Black, this sci-fi short is essentially a puzzle operating on two levels: there’s the straightening of twisted timelines as a man tries to escape the time loop he’s found himself, which brings kinetic energy and suspense to the storytelling. But there’s also an existential puzzle, as Pete must work with his past and future selves to figure it all out. But when you’re an arrogant, selfish jerk, that process is a lot harder.

Shot with a lurid moodiness like a corporate thriller and scored with an anxious, dissonant electronic score, the film still finds a lot of fun and even insight in the set-up. Placing a time loop in a public restroom builds some quirkiness into the narrative from the beginning and contours the concept perfectly for the short format. And there’s also some biting humor as Pete comes up against his own self, which he does again and again as he tries to figure out the paradox he’s in but is hindered by his blowhard attitude.

Time traveling is a complicated idea and the fast pace and sharp dialogue lay it out quickly, but the mechanics don’t have to be completely grasped to enjoy the film. Instead, the story smartly yokes the solving of the time travel puzzle to Pete’s confrontation with himself. Actor Jacob Daniels’ nimble performance as Pete proves to be the film’s anchor through all the temporal madness, as his character slowly realizes that working with himself is the true nightmare. He sees the cost of his cut-throat, toxic attitude and treatment of others because the time loops force him to be the victim of it.

If Pete wants any chance to escape the temporal trap he’s in, he’s got to change his attitude fast — or else risk being killed by his own desperate, cornered self. By the end of “Stalled,” he’s a changed man, and that growth is hard-won. It’s an eye-opening moment for Pete when the worst version of himself points a gun at himself and has no reservations about pulling the trigger. It’s a riveting situation in a short full of such moments, but it also provokes some reflection on how we’d get along with ourselves at our worst, making for an unexpectedly thoughtful ending to a compelling wild ride of a film.

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322 comments
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teleskiguy  Dec 28, 2022 • 5:25:31pm

so thirsty

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 28, 2022 • 5:27:24pm

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darthstar  Dec 28, 2022 • 5:29:10pm

re: #2 Patricia Kayden

Enjoying that joke a little more every time I see it.

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darthstar  Dec 28, 2022 • 5:30:01pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

so thirsty

He should hook up with that Andy Tate guy who got his ass handed to him by Greta.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2022 • 5:30:56pm

re: #297 John Hughes

Possibly. But what kind of lunatic would have wired a US 240V outlet with an EU 220V socket instead of a proper US 240V socket?

That’s not an EU socket. The horizontal blades are an American socket. EU sockets use round pins instead of blades.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 28, 2022 • 5:31:19pm

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Charles Johnson  Dec 28, 2022 • 5:33:14pm

I don’t know why Tesla shareholders aren’t making more noise. Some of those people are losing a fuck-ton of money because the CEO is having a very public break with reality.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 28, 2022 • 5:34:19pm

re: #5 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That is exactly what it is. This outlet is near what would have been an older A/C unit and was probably used for that purpose. That is why I said I have to find a good electrician to turn it into something useable.

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John Hughes  Dec 28, 2022 • 5:35:54pm

re: #5 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That’s not an EU socket. The horizontal blades are an American socket. EU sockets use round pins instead of blades.

Ah, Amazon screwed up again, the link for the adaptor in the original post was modified by Amazon to point to a EU -> UK adaptor.

It’s getting positively Vernor Vinge on the internets these days.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 28, 2022 • 5:36:57pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

I don’t know why Tesla shareholders aren’t making more noise. Some of those people are losing a fuck-ton of money because the CEO is having a very public break with reality.

Split between the ones who sincerely believe in the mystique of Musk and thus won’t make noise, and the ones who are terrified that the stock’s whole value is rooted in the mystique of Musk and thus worried that pulling him up will further crash the stock.

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teleskiguy  Dec 28, 2022 • 5:37:50pm

These are screws that attach a ski binding to the ski after holes are drilled into the ski. They’re varying lengths because some skis’ wood cores are thicker than others. The ski company I work for uses the screw third from the left. I emptied one of the burlap sacks of these screws we have today, indicating that as of today the shop used 4,000 of these screws this winter.

One company makes these screws, they’re in Germany.

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Teukka  Dec 28, 2022 • 5:39:33pm

Third thread affected by Greta:

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William Lewis  Dec 28, 2022 • 5:41:55pm

re: #299 jeffreyw

spark ignition? there are some orifices directly adjacent that may have been clogged when you cleaned

Don’t hear the clicking sound I associate with those igniters, kinda looks like them under the hood though. Shrug. I can light it with a match as needed until they come over tomorrow on the maint request I have in.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 28, 2022 • 5:43:19pm

re: #13 William Lewis

Be careful. :)

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teleskiguy  Dec 28, 2022 • 5:43:33pm

I love the little pencil.

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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2022 • 5:52:27pm

re: #4 darthstar

He should hook up with that Andy Tate guy who got his ass handed to him by Greta.

Never heard of Tate till today.
Still haven’t //

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William Lewis  Dec 28, 2022 • 5:55:53pm

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William Lewis  Dec 28, 2022 • 5:56:23pm

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William Lewis  Dec 28, 2022 • 5:56:53pm

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Charles Johnson  Dec 28, 2022 • 6:05:47pm

re: #19 William Lewis

Great photos.

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darthstar  Dec 28, 2022 • 6:08:12pm

I’ve got a guy on the bird app who made some bullshit claim about the cost of electricity for EVs so I fed him some personal facts…this was about a week ago. He’s still checking in and asking for more information - I think the fact that I can get close to 300 miles for about $12 when charging at home piqued his interest. So I’m being kind and answering his questions.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2022 • 6:09:08pm

re: #8 PhillyPretzel

That is exactly what it is. This outlet is near what would have been an older A/C unit and was probably used for that purpose. That is why I said I have to find a good electrician to turn it into something useable.

I can do it, but you’d have to buy me a round-trip plane ticket.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 28, 2022 • 6:09:11pm
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darthstar  Dec 28, 2022 • 6:12:23pm

Floor guy is here finishing up with a little bleach and staining…

I posted this a week or so ago…

Here’s what it looks like now from about 15 feet away. In another month or so the floors will have aged together (the rest of the floor is only 2 months old).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2022 • 6:13:33pm

re: #23 Dave In Austin

Responding to @ icum4mao

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teleskiguy  Dec 28, 2022 • 6:16:27pm
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A Three Hour Tour  Dec 28, 2022 • 6:19:08pm

re: #23 Dave In Austin

And then “George Santos” found solace in the comforting embrace of his wife, Morgan Fairchild. Yes … THAT’S the ticket.

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William Lewis  Dec 28, 2022 • 6:22:05pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

Great photos.

Thank you, I appreciate hearing that.

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Teukka  Dec 28, 2022 • 6:23:50pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 28, 2022 • 6:23:53pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 28, 2022 • 6:30:14pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2022 • 6:34:05pm
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Joe Bacon  Dec 28, 2022 • 6:34:37pm

re: #24 darthstar

Floor guy is here finishing up with a little bleach and staining…

I posted this a week or so ago…

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Wow. Looks very beautiful!!!!!!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2022 • 6:36:07pm

Snow incoming (again)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2022 • 6:38:31pm
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William Lewis  Dec 28, 2022 • 6:44:31pm

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m not sure what I expected but Jerry Reed was not it! Thank you for posting that one.

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austin_blue  Dec 28, 2022 • 6:44:46pm

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That’s DFW Airport. When it gets windy, luggage gets rambunctious.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 28, 2022 • 6:47:12pm

What if the battleship USS New Jersey time traveled to the American Revolution?
It would be meh.

What Would Happen if Battleship New Jersey Time Travels to the American Revolution?

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Belafon  Dec 28, 2022 • 6:51:58pm

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I click on the tweet. I try to reply, it tells me that I need to log in. I log in, and it still has the login button and and asks that I log in when I reply. I try to log in again, and it says I’m logged in. But I still have the login button and can’t reply.

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Sherlock Hound  Dec 28, 2022 • 6:52:37pm

re: #12 Teukka

Français aussi !
20minutes.fr

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Belafon  Dec 28, 2022 • 6:54:09pm

I wonder of they’re trying to force everyone to the twitter app.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 28, 2022 • 6:55:05pm

re: #32 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The Nixon one is a decent cameo.

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Belafon  Dec 28, 2022 • 6:57:37pm
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Cheechako  Dec 28, 2022 • 6:57:58pm

A fun commentary from a local writer. Geoff Kirsch is an award-winning Juneau-based writer and humorist.

Slack Tide: Great Alaskan Hanukkah or ‘Alaskanukkah’

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 28, 2022 • 6:59:20pm

It’s not the stock market that’s crazy, Onle Skum

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Belafon  Dec 28, 2022 • 7:01:20pm
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Joe Bacon  Dec 28, 2022 • 7:04:21pm

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Can’t…Stop…Laughing…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 28, 2022 • 7:05:39pm

re: #38 The Pie Overlord!

Dude undervalues what sailing up the Thames can do.

Those armor-piercing 16” shells will destroy Westminster and Windsor castle.

Wiping out Parliament and the Crown would be a big deal.

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Belafon  Dec 28, 2022 • 7:05:40pm

re: #41 Belafon

I finally got it to work by restarting the browser.

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 28, 2022 • 7:08:18pm

re: #49 Belafon

I finally got it to work by restarting the browser.

It just started working again on its own at the same time as you restarted your browser.
I didn’t even need to log in.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 28, 2022 • 7:08:51pm

Also, diesel engines can be adapted to run on vegetable oils. Many oils are too heavy to be very efficient, but find some lightweight vegetable oil.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 28, 2022 • 7:10:38pm

re: #49 Belafon

I finally got it to work by restarting the browser.

Had the same thing happen to me the other day, with Chrome and Prime Video.

All of a sudden Prime Video said my browser could not play videos and I needed to upgrade the broswer.

I just restarted Chrome… and Prime Video is happy.

These websites are getting so fat on page loads, and the browsers so loaded with capabilities, that it’s a wonder more sites don’t refuse to work erratically.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 28, 2022 • 7:12:56pm

re: #48 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Dude undervalues what sailing up the Thames can do.

Those armor-piercing 16” shells will destroy Westminster and Windsor castle.

Wiping out Parliament and the Crown would be a big deal.

The Thames would be too shallow to accommodate a vessel the size of USS NJ.

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TarHellion  Dec 28, 2022 • 7:13:10pm

re: #32 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

John Carpenter was his name. And it drove me crazy, because 31-year-old me knew every answer he got right. Sigh…

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 28, 2022 • 7:20:17pm
Earlier this year, as Elon Musk looked increasingly likely to lose his court battle and be forced into purchasing Twitter, Justine De Caires started to get nervous.

Like others, De Caires, a Twitter software engineer of three and a half years, predicted a Musk takeover would come with mass layoffs. Unlike many, the 25-year-old had closely followed the legal battle between the billionaire and the social media company and read every page of the merger agreement. “I get fascinated and interested in things very easily,” explained DeCaires, who uses they/them pronouns.

Twitter higher-ups promised to stick to a generous severance package in the event of a Musk takeover, De Caires says. But the engineer had doubts, and started looking for labor rights attorneys with a history of dealing with powerful tech companies. The first email was to a Massachusetts attorney named Shannon Liss-Riordan, who had filed a lawsuit against Tesla months earlier. The attorney called back that same day.

“It was kind of like, ‘OK, let’s wait and see how this goes,’” De Caires recalled of that first conversation. “But when things started happening—oh, she was ready.”

The mass layoffs at Twitter in November—a proverbial Red Wedding that cut the staff in half—has proven fertile ground for lawsuits. But Liss-Riordan, a labor rights veteran once dubbed “Sledgehammer Shannon,” was perhaps the best-equipped attorney in the country to handle the case. A chatty 53-year-old Boston transplant, Liss-Riordan has sued tech companies from Uber to DoorDash and won judgments of up to $100 million on behalf of their workers.

She has also attracted her share of critics: Opponents of her failed bid for Massachusetts attorney general pointed to the millions she earned from her signature class-action suits, suggesting she was more interested in money than the movement—charges she forcefully denies.

Today, the attorney has filed four lawsuits on behalf of laid-off Twitter employees, alleging transgressions ranging from disability discrimination to Title VII violations. Her plan, she says, is to convince the multi-billionaire that paying his laid-off employees would be easier than fighting them all in court.

“I find it really concerning when the richest man in the world—well, now the formerly richest man in the world—thinks that he can do whatever he wants and is above the law,” she told The Daily Beast.

The Woman Who Plans to Make Elon Musk Pay for His Twitter Sins (The Daily Beast)

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austin_blue  Dec 28, 2022 • 7:25:56pm

re: #48 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Dude undervalues what sailing up the Thames can do.

Those armor-piercing 16” shells will destroy Westminster and Windsor castle.

Wiping out Parliament and the Crown would be a big deal.

The 16 -inch shells had a maximum range of 20 nautical miles, throwing a 2,700 pound shell. Basically, from a Texas perspective, shooting a shell from Austin to Georgetown.

Impressive!

But the real firepower would be the ten 5” inch guns in double mounts on each side of the ship. If the battleship sailed up the Thames and used the 5” guns it could lay waste to all of London’s government buildings plus the royal living areas. From the north side of the boat.

The Battleship would also have to back up to the English Channel to get away because it couldn’t turn around in the Thames.

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Belafon  Dec 28, 2022 • 7:28:45pm

re: #55 Crush White Nationalism

When I was a kid, one of the jobs my dad did to earn an income for our family was as a photographer. He charged way lower than his competitors, but what that actually got him was people thinking he wasn’t a professional, even though he had done a photography course with CUNY. Raising prices got him more business. A cheap lawyer wouldn’t be seen as professional enough.

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austin_blue  Dec 28, 2022 • 7:34:27pm

I’m off to bed early, a book to finish.

Night Lizards! Sweet scaly dreams.

Be nice to each other.

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William Lewis  Dec 28, 2022 • 7:37:43pm

A couple of thoughts on an Iowa class BB…

Steam boilers designed for heavy bunker oil. Could probably use a vegetable oil or even alcohol but it would be nowhere as efficient. Perhaps “only” 20 knots… Since the timeline is already heavily screwed, send a crew to the right part of Pennsylvania and collect that black goop coming out of the ground that no one wants…

Does she have the weapons kit from Gulf 1? If so, 32 × BGM-109 Tomahawk launchers
16 × RGM-84 Harpoon launchers & 4 × 20 mm Phalanx CIWS are on there. Anything within 1500 miles of a coastline is within range. 1,000 pounds (450 kg) high explosive or submunition dispenser with BLU-97/B Combined Effects Bomb or PBXN on the Tomahawks. No nukes because even if they had the warheads on board, they wouldn’t be able to get past the PALs.

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teleskiguy  Dec 28, 2022 • 7:43:57pm

He’s a fuckin’ alt-right nazi troll.

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teleskiguy  Dec 28, 2022 • 7:47:40pm

re: #17 William Lewis

Snowy landscapes always warms the cockles of my heart! All the way down in the subcockles! 🙂

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 28, 2022 • 7:55:48pm

re: #53 The Pie Overlord!

The Thames would be too shallow to accommodate a vessel the size of USS NJ.

The New Jersey could not go very far inland. But those guns shoot for 20 miles.

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teleskiguy  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:02:29pm

re: #60 teleskiguy

He’s a fuckin’ alt-right nazi troll.

Like I was saying…

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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:03:59pm

re: #53 The Pie Overlord!

The Thames would be too shallow to accommodate a vessel the size of USS NJ.

They time traveled a boat
You think depth of the river would be an issue?

//

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ckkatz  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:04:03pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:06:21pm

re: #59 William Lewis

A couple of thoughts on an Iowa class BB…

Steam boilers designed for heavy bunker oil. Could probably use a vegetable oil or even alcohol but it would be nowhere as efficient. Perhaps “only” 20 knots… Since the timeline is already heavily screwed, send a crew to the right part of Pennsylvania and collect that black goop coming out of the ground that no one wants…

It would not be possible, in the pre-industrial age, to refine crude oil in sufficient quantity to power a vessel of that size.

Does she have the weapons kit from Gulf 1? If so, 32 × BGM-109 Tomahawk launchers 16 × RGM-84 Harpoon launchers & 4 × 20 mm Phalanx CIWS are on there. Anything within 1500 miles of a coastline is within range. 1,000 pounds (450 kg) high explosive or submunition dispenser with BLU-97/B Combined Effects Bomb or PBXN on the Tomahawks. No nukes because even if they had the warheads on board, they wouldn’t be able to get past the PALs.

What are they going to lay waste to? The colonists wanted independence, they did not want to destroy or conquer Britain.

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William Lewis  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:08:42pm

re: #66 The Pie Overlord!

It would not be possible, in the pre-industrial age, to refine crude oil in sufficient quantity to power a vessel of that size.

What are they going to lay waste to? The colonists wanted independence, they did not want to destroy or conquer Britain.

The whole concept of the ship makes little sense in that regard, I completely agree :)

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:10:32pm

Many years ago I read a Harry Turtledove novel in which apartheid-supporting white Afrikaaners time travel to the Civil War to bring AK-47’s to the Confederacy. I don’t remember how they replenished their ammo.

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gwangung  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:10:38pm

Didn’t the late Eric Flint have a cottage industry doing what ifs like this?

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ckkatz  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:10:41pm

I would suspect that if the USS New Jersey were to just start sinking British warships and other shipping, the French would have been happy to do the rest.

The Brits in America were on the far end of a very long supply line.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:11:40pm

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jaunte  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:12:31pm

re: #64 Dangerman

They would do better with Space Battleship Yamato, if they could translate the dials.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:12:32pm

re: #64 Dangerman

They time traveled a boat
You think depth of the river would be an issue?

//

The British would release their flying dragons.

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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:13:15pm

Nassau county NY da and feds have started looking into Santos

Didn’t take long

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:13:42pm

re: #68 The Pie Overlord!

Turtledove has apparently visited that scenario (US Civil War) several times. I’ve not read any of them.

The biggest difference travelling back in time is the introduction of new diseases, or variants of common diseases. Most people today are vaccinated (except the anti-vaxxers) against smallpox and polio, but will take with them variants of flu (and coronavirus etc.) not seen in 1776.

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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:14:42pm

re: #73 The Pie Overlord!

The British would release their flying dragons.

Now yer talking in the spirit of the thing

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sagehen  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:15:52pm

re: #66 The Pie Overlord!

It would not be possible, in the pre-industrial age, to refine crude oil in sufficient quantity to power a vessel of that size.

What are they going to lay waste to? The colonists wanted independence, they did not want to destroy or conquer Britain.

Aren’t there a bunch of British ships in or near port? Or on their way? Sink them. Sink enough of them there’s nothing left to carry word back to London; George and his team will just have to wonder why they haven’t got word for months…

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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:17:38pm

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:17:42pm

re: #68 The Pie Overlord!
That reminds me of the novel “A Rebel In Time” by Harry Harrison where a racist goes back in time to bring weapons to the Confederacy. A Black agent has to stop his plans.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:19:41pm

re: #77 sagehen

Aren’t there a bunch of British ships in or near port? Or on their way? Sink them. Sink enough of them there’s nothing left to carry word back to London; George and his team will just have to wonder why they haven’t got word for months…

How long did it take a ship to sail from North America to England in those days? 6 weeks? The USS NJ would run out of fuel before the King found out about the ginormous floating fortress. This is addressed in the video that I posted.

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piratedan  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:24:06pm

re: #68 The Pie Overlord!

I believe that was Guns of the South. Turtledove does a lot of Alternate History work, some of it is better than others, depends on the premise methinks.

My favorite of the genre is an old H Beam Piper short story called He Walked Around the Horses.

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sagehen  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:26:25pm

re: #69 gwangung

Didn’t the late Eric Flint have a cottage industry doing what ifs like this?

He had a series based on a 10-mile diameter. chunk of year 2000 West Virginia is science-fantasy-ly transported to 1632 Central Europe. This particular West Virginia town had a a coal-fired electric plant, a hospital, a high school (and library), some specialty gun shops with gunsmithing equipment… one of the high school kids was an Olympic-level sharpshooter, and of course everybody in town has deer-hunting rifles…

My favorite part of the new timeline the WVians created was they had to open diplomatic relations and trade negotiations with the Ottoman Empire, because “COFFEE!! WE NEED COFFEE!”

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teleskiguy  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:26:54pm

I’m already surrounded by folks with a lot of guns in their homes, for all sorts of reasons. There’s guns in my home. For very different reasons than a lot of people *I know* out there in *this country* who are stockpiling weapons and burying ammo…

Like that TV show “The X-Files,” they’re out there.

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teleskiguy  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:30:42pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:34:30pm

re: #75 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Turtledove has apparently visited that scenario (US Civil War) several times. I’ve not read any of them.

The biggest difference travelling back in time is the introduction of new diseases, or variants of common diseases. Most people today are vaccinated (except the anti-vaxxers) against smallpox and polio, but will take with them variants of flu (and coronavirus etc.) not seen in 1776.

They stopped vaccinating for smallpox in 1972 in the United States. So there are few on the vessel who would be protected from that disease.

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teleskiguy  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:35:24pm

re: #84 teleskiguy

spoiler alert: water

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Belafon  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:39:57pm

re: #84 teleskiguy

And 90% of that 20% lives near the west coast.

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Sherlock Hound  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:42:26pm

re: #72 jaunte

They would do better with Space Battleship Yamato, if they could translate the dials.

The Wave Motion Gun is known to have vaporized entire landmasses.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:45:18pm

From OneZero (an education magazine), the troubling history of Acellus, a remote-learning programme for schools widely adopted during the pandemic.

It goes into the racism and mistakes in the material, as well as the problematic history of the religious cult which created the material for public schools. The entire state of Hawai’i adopted the programme, along with school districts across the nation, without properly vetting the material. School districts now are refusing to drop the coursework, citing all the money they spent on it.

A Popular Online Learning Platform Was Actually Created by an Underground Religious ‘Cult’

The creator of Acellus and the ‘cult’s leader has been accused of violence and abuse

t was summer when Mark Mauikānehoalani Lovell, a teacher at Palolo Elementary on Oahu, logged into Acellus Learning Accelerator, a remote education platform the school had planned to use as the pandemic shuttered classrooms for the foreseeable future. Unfamiliar with the product, Lovell scrolled through what seemed to be hundreds of its lessons. He eventually settled on humanities subjects, hoping to find something like his own class — a course called Hawaiiana and Pasifika — but quickly fell down a rabbit hole of disbelief. One minute turned into 10, and then an hour had gone by on the platform.

What Lovell discovered “was the most offensive thing I’ve ever seen,” he told OneZero.

By August, thousands of Hawaiʻi families were told their schools would be adopting Acellus Learning Accelerator to support online learning. But when the semester began, parents and teachers found what can be interpreted as racist, sexist, and other inappropriate material in a variety of Acellus courses. They immediately petitioned school districts to drop the product, causing parents in other states to realize their children, too, were using Acellus programs. Government records indicated the platform’s parent company had received hundreds of thousands of dollars in state and federal contracts. As of August 24, Hawaii’s Department of Education had purchased Acellus Learning Accelerator licenses for 78,670 students in 185 public and public charter schools. It later admitted that Acellus products have been used by the state for nearly a decade.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:46:27pm

re: #84 teleskiguy

I’m in the 20% part. We could also call this the “top quintile.”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:46:53pm

re: #84 teleskiguy

The narrator really likes to emphasize superlatives.

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Targetpractice  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:47:23pm

re: #68 The Pie Overlord!

Many years ago I read a Harry Turtledove novel in which apartheid-supporting white Afrikaaners time travel to the Civil War to bring AK-47’s to the Confederacy. I don’t remember how they replenished their ammo.

The Afrikaaners were shipping in munitions through their active time portal right up until they realized they were losing control over the newly-independent CSA and tried to take over. But even before that, CSA gunsmiths had figured out how to reload spent rounds with black powder and lead bullets. It fouled the AKs something fierce, but they kept firing with regular cleaning so the Confederates saw it as an acceptable compromise.

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ckkatz  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:47:54pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:49:01pm

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

As if most of the history textbooks for K-12 were not fully built-in with racism and bigotry, at least before the very end of the 20th century when textbooks started to get more critical attention.

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piratedan  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:50:16pm

re: #82 sagehen

yeah, those are the 1632 series, which ended up being a kind of budding author collective over at Baen Books as they ended up recruiting people from their web-boards who were big on anachronisms and “old tech” who could speak to niche developments and run with those ideas.

Flint also brought the same concept over to other works as well, The time shifts are created by an alien race doing dodgy experiments with space/time mechanics and the results of said experiments throw off spikes of energy/time (think of something like a time core drilling, like we do for ground surveys in geology) that randomly impact not just our planet, but a few other civilizations in this arm of the galaxy. That was the high level conceit of the generation of the time shifts/displacements and then the actual stories were about those impacted.

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ckkatz  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:51:26pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 28, 2022 • 8:54:53pm

re: #91 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Hence why he’s most likely making a living doing this thing. Superlative geography.

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teleskiguy  Dec 28, 2022 • 9:02:05pm
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jaunte  Dec 28, 2022 • 9:09:25pm

re: #98 teleskiguy

The stupid is coming at us at warp nine!

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Targetpractice  Dec 28, 2022 • 9:11:19pm

One set of books I read years ago was the Axis of Time trilogy involving a multinational UN fleet from 2021 being dropped right in the middle of 1942 with most of the fleet materializing smack in the middle of Task Force 17 on its way to Midway. And one of the running themes throughout the trilogy is the difficulty of keeping 21st century tech running using mid-20th century infrastructure.

In fact, one scene in the (IIRC) second book pretty well covers the issue with the Nazis of all people. They’d managed to get a bunch of tech from some old East German destroyers the Japanese had captured, along with a French stealth destroyer that popped up near the Canary Islands, and put shell-shocked “war hero” of the Eastern Front to the task of building the wonder weapons Hitler read about in the internet cache files from the future. The poor bastard finds himself standing in front of Hitler and Himmer (latter of which is ready to send him to the camps) and explain that even something as simple as a computer tablet is beyond their reach in 1942. That such technology is the result of decades of innovation, discoveries built upon discoveries, and that anything they build in the 1940s is gonna be a crude imitation at best. Surprisingly, Hitler actually accepts that answer because it’s 1942 and he’s still totally in the “The war will be over shortly” delusion fueled by BS from his own generals.

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wrenchwench  Dec 28, 2022 • 9:26:02pm

re: #100 Targetpractice

I just watched an original Star Trek in which Kirk had to allow a traffic accident to happen because otherwise a pacifist social worker he had fallen in love with would live and (further) delay the entry of the US into WWII and the Nazis would have won. Written by Harlan Ellison.

Ooops, sorry about the spoilers. /

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EstebanTornado1963  Dec 28, 2022 • 9:29:47pm
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jaunte  Dec 28, 2022 • 9:31:32pm

re: #101 wrenchwench

Being a Kirk love interest was almost as deadly as being a red shirt on the away team.

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wrenchwench  Dec 28, 2022 • 9:36:13pm

re: #103 jaunte

Being a Kirk love interest was almost as deadly as being a red shirt on the away team.

I’ve been getting a variety of free Star Trek. My preference is TNG, but the choice is not mine. I have deduced that the writing is not that much better on TNG, it’s just Patrick Stewart.

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jaunte  Dec 28, 2022 • 9:37:38pm
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retired cynic  Dec 28, 2022 • 9:39:38pm

re: #105 jaunte

A Buddhist temple in the heavens painted by Van Gogh. Wow, what a scene!

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wrenchwench  Dec 28, 2022 • 9:43:57pm

re: #106 retired cynic

A Buddhist temple in the heavens painted by Van Gogh. Wow, what a scene!

I saw a wizard on a horse by R. Crumb.

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mmmirele  Dec 28, 2022 • 9:44:14pm
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Sherlock Hound  Dec 28, 2022 • 9:51:08pm

re: #104 wrenchwench

I’ve been getting a variety of free Star Trek. My preference is TNG, but the choice is not mine. I have deduced that the writing is not that much better on TNG, it’s just Patrick Stewart.

Early TNG, that’s absolutely true. After Gene died, the storylines improved a lot, though I consider DS9 to be the best, and my favorite.

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Belafon  Dec 28, 2022 • 9:55:15pm

re: #105 jaunte

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The MCU is turning out to be a documentary.

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Targetpractice  Dec 28, 2022 • 9:55:46pm

re: #109 Sherlock Hound

Early TNG, that’s absolutely true. After Gene died, the storylines improved a lot, though I consider DS9 to be the best, and my favorite.

The big issue with early TNG was that it’d been greenlit in the wake of the success of the TOS films, so the writing direction was basically “TOS 2.0,” even going so far as to recycle entire scripts from the aborted TOS reboot and rejected scripts from TOS itself. Combine that with Gene chaining the writing staff down to his “future humans are perfect beings” philosophy and directors who were misogynist/racist asshats and you got a series that was all the worst aspects of the 60s brought into the 80s.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 28, 2022 • 10:15:23pm

Birbie for Thursday

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2022 • 10:18:11pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 28, 2022 • 10:20:32pm

re: #110 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Fundie viewpoints like Ben’s are largely why church attendance is at an all-time low and more folks today are smacking the “None” button than identifying themselves as any particular religion. There are plenty of folks out there that feel they need an imaginary sky deity and a book of fairy tales to give their lives meaning, to make them feel important, and to help them get out of bed in the morning. But there’s just as many (if not more) people who feel they don’t need those things for their lives to have meaning, that they can find purpose in their lives that’s not tied to the will of others. Especially not that will as translated by earthly messengers who many increasingly view as substituting in their own bigotries and hatreds for the “word” of their particular sky fairy.

But the Ben Shapiros of the world can’t accept that reality because it removes the power that religion gives them over others, which is why we get these thinly-veiled “BOW TO MY WILL, HERETIC!” lectures from “men of God.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2022 • 10:27:52pm

Christian Post, December 27, 2022

And that’ why TST does it: Because proselytising to children in public schools is expressly forbidden, even though about five thousand public school boards explicitly allow it in violation of the law.

“Tragedy, crime and shocking behavior sell more news than good news.”

Lydia Kaiser should know: she’s the spokeswoman for the Good News Club, a longtime ministry of Child Evangelism Fellowship (CEF) whose stated mission is to “evangelize boys and girls with the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ and to establish (disciple) them in the Word of God and in a local church for Christian living.”

And while CEF has taken its Good News Club and other ministries to thousands of schools across the United States since its founding in 1937, another club — with an entirely different mission — has seemingly pushed its way into the headlines in recent years: the After School Satan Club sponsored by The Satanic Temple (TST).

The reasons behind the rise in notoriety for TST are many, according to Kaiser, who said media outlets play a key role in promoting the satanic organization.

“Sensationalism is picked up by the media and its consumers more easily,” Kaiser told The Christian Post via email.

That’s not just industry standard for more left-leaning media, but conservative outlets as well, said Kaiser, who specifically called out Fox News’ Tucker Carlson as an example of conservative commentators who, while reporting on the satanic clubs, fail to bring up the context in which those clubs are started.

“Sadly, many news people (i.e., Tucker Carlson) spend just enough time on air to raise the ire of the watcher with one more ‘Isn’t it awful?’ story and then quickly move on, not caring to bring up the aspect of the story that Satan clubs are only started in schools with Good News Clubs as a direct attack on teaching Christianity to children,” she said.

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Good News Club: After school satanic clubs are a ‘direct attack on teaching Christianity to children’

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 28, 2022 • 11:45:10pm

re: #112 Targetpractice

Roddenberry’s other projects, produced by his widow, Andromeda and Earth: Final Conflict , both suffered from trying too hard.

Andromeda had a story that was decent enough but I credit some of the actors (not Sorbo) for making more of their characters than their script initiated for them.

E:FC had serious story problems, and flipping the major characters from season 1 to season 2 was a reset that was bumpy.

Both series had poor final seasons.

In the big picture, the TV networks are always desperate for material that will be hits and the re-emergence of Star Trek after a two decade layover kicked off almost two decades of networks trying all sorts of space-operas.

But the essential stories often lacked.

JMS did well with B5 but that is mostly due to the power of his personality convincing the Turner execs to let him have creative control.

Other shows did not fare well.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2022 • 11:48:26pm

Both religious leaders reported in Religion News Service and the Freedom from Religion Foundation have lamented that Christian Nationalism wasn’t prominently mentioned in the January 6 report as a primary motivator for the attack.

Despite ample evidence, Christian nationalism mostly absent from final Jan. 6 report (Religion News Service)

Faith leaders have questioned the omission, which lawmakers have signaled is founded in caution against tarring ‘every American who believes God has blessed America’ as a white supremacist.

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FFRF disappointed in Jan. 6 report’s Christian nationalist omissions

The committee’s official findings do not adequately illustrate the true nature of the insurrection and its participants, asserts the national state/church watchdog. The rioters, white supremacist Nick Fuentes primary among them, frequently engaged in Christian rituals before and during the assault. The “Jericho Marches,” in which rioters walked around the Capitol in the days prior praying for the results of the election to be overturned and calling for “spiritual warfare,” the chanting of “Christ is king,” banners containing biblical messages and crosses carried by the insurrectionists show strong evidence of Christian nationalism. More prayers at the “Save America” rally organized by Trump before the putsch, prayers and even exorcisms inside the Capitol during the insurrection, as well as the strong Christian nationalist ties by public officials associated with the “Stop the Steal” movement likewise demonstrate its pervasiveness.

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It’s extremely rare these two groups agree on anything,

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2022 • 12:04:25am

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Scott Joplin - Maple Leaf Rag

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Sherlock Hound  Dec 29, 2022 • 12:22:30am

re: #117 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Andromeda had the problem of the dog finally catching the car. The story was about Sorbo’s character trying to re-establish the Galactic Commonwealth all by himself. I enjoyed that part, over the first few seasons.

But then he succeeded, and formed a government.

Now what?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 29, 2022 • 12:30:16am

re: #120 Sherlock Hound

Yes, the fifth season seemed kind of unnecessary.

But I felt that way about B5 too, since JMS rushed the story into season four.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 29, 2022 • 12:39:38am
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Targetpractice  Dec 29, 2022 • 12:43:40am

re: #117 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Roddenberry was an ideas guy, you could call him into a TV exec’s office and he’d pitch ideas for several TV shows that would sound interesting and full of potential. But then you’d greenlight one of them and find out that he only ever had the base outline in mind of what he wanted. That was most obvious in the ill-fated third season of TOS, when all the talented members of the writing staff saw the writing on the wall and jumped ship, leaving him and the guys with no better job prospects to muddle through under the new producer’s mandates until the axe came down.

JMS was basically the opposite, he came to the pitch meeting with five full seasons plotted out and the script for the pilot, all he needed to do was write the scripts for the remaining seasons. Problem was that the folks at Turner screwed him over by contracting him for five seasons, but then deciding during the production of the fourth that they didn’t like where the viewership numbers were and announced the series was ending a season early. JMS took them at their word and rushed the series’ end by cannibalizing heavily from the plotted fifth season, only for Turner to then change their minds and greenlight the fifth season. So that’s why the fifth season seems unnecessary, because all the story JMS wanted to tell was already told and he was basically fulfilling contractual obligations after that point.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2022 • 12:46:11am

Maybe I need water music to attract the plumber this afternoon.

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Sally Oldfield - Water Bearer

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2022 • 12:50:51am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2022 • 12:57:02am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 29, 2022 • 2:11:26am

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Tamie




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Targetpractice  Dec 29, 2022 • 2:49:29am

Y’know, this whole “If you need it, buy it yourself” philosophy might well work for the assholes who own this hotel, but I really wish they’d put that somewhere prominent for guests to see. Because right now, we get people coming to us at all hours of the day, looking to us for free shit that they should otherwise be able to buy at the local general goods store themselves.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2022 • 2:51:09am

I’m off to bed.

A Dominican court convicted 10 people involved in the 2019 attempted killing of baseball Hall of Famer David Ortiz, authorities confirmed on Tuesday.

Ortiz, a Dominican native, was ambushed by a man who got off a motorcycle and shot him in the back at close range while the former Red Sox slugger was at a bar with friends in a well-off neighborhood of Santo Domingo.

Two men, including the alleged shooter Rolfi Ferreyra Cruz, were each sentenced to 30 years in prison by Santo Domingo’s First Collegiate Court.

Eight others received prison sentences of between 5 and 20 years. Three other defendants were acquitted due to insufficient evidence, including Víctor Hugo Gómez Vásquez, who was accused of planning the attack.

American private investigators hired by Ortiz said that the slugger affectionately known as Big Papi was targeted by a Dominican drug trafficker who was jealous of him.

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10 People Convicted In Attempted Killing Of Former MLB Slugger David Ortiz (Huffington Post)

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steve_davis  Dec 29, 2022 • 3:00:00am

re: #27 A Three Hour Tour

And then “George Santos” found solace in the comforting embrace of his wife, Morgan Fairchild. Yes … THAT’S the ticket.

At this point, I fully expect to discover that Santos was Manti Te’o’s girlfriend at Norte Dame.

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steve_davis  Dec 29, 2022 • 3:23:16am

re: #104 wrenchwench

I’ve been getting a variety of free Star Trek. My preference is TNG, but the choice is not mine. I have deduced that the writing is not that much better on TNG, it’s just Patrick Stewart.

The first two seasons of tng are horrifically bad. Then Worf has the child with his human wife and it’s like “are we not past this bullshit yet? Not gonna happen. Can’t cross-breed pigs and goats either.”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 29, 2022 • 3:31:12am

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

10 People Convicted In Attempted Killing Of Former MLB Slugger David Ortiz (Huffington Post)

… Big Papi was targeted by a Dominican drug trafficker who was jealous of him.

Damn. That’s…I’m…speechless. Damn.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 29, 2022 • 3:34:51am

re: #132 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Damn. That’s…I’m…speechless. Damn.

It’s back to Cain killing Abel…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 29, 2022 • 3:41:46am

The joy of DNA testing for genealogy keeps giving…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 29, 2022 • 3:46:16am

re: #133 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It’s back to Cain killing Abel…

At least that I can understand (in a highly twisted way, of course), but a total stranger who’s just jealous that you exist? WTFingF?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2022 • 4:05:04am
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Teukka  Dec 29, 2022 • 4:17:27am

re: #40 Sherlock Hound

Français aussi !
20minutes.fr

Figured the French would want in on the action…

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Teukka  Dec 29, 2022 • 4:20:13am

re: #122 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Sigh…

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Sit back, crank the volume up a bit, relax, enjoy…

Wasureji no Kotonoha [The Forgotten Words] — OST Grimms Notes — ENGLISH SUB

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 29, 2022 • 4:24:24am
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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2022 • 4:43:29am

re: #107 wrenchwench

I saw a wizard on a horse by R. Crumb.

Ditto

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2022 • 5:21:48am

re: #81 piratedan

I believe that was Guns of the South. Turtledove does a lot of Alternate History work, some of it is better than others, depends on the premise methinks.

My favorite of the genre is an old H Beam Piper short story called He Walked Around the Horses.

Just read it at gutenberg.org
Good story

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No Malarkey!  Dec 29, 2022 • 5:36:12am

The 2022 midterms were a win for democracy. We didn’t see extremists make significant efforts to interfere with voting; election deniers who ran for posts where they would be able to interfere in the certification process in key swing states lost their races and mostly conceded; the election deniers in Arizona lost their court challenges to their electoral defeats; confidence in election results improved, and the Electoral Count Act reforms to try to prevent another legalistic coup such as Trump attempted in 2020 passed.

We of course wanted to succeed in the Democrats’ long-shot bid to retain control of Congress so that more substantive legislation could be passed in the next two years. We failed in that as the GOP won a small majority in the House, however that has always been the nature of American politics; we mostly muddle through with only rare moments of sweeping change, usually brought about by some crisis that upends the political landscape. However, seeing as there have been recent dark times in which a slide into a dystopian, corrupt fascist government seemed likely, muddling through looks good in comparison. In 2022, we lived to fight another day.

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TarHellion  Dec 29, 2022 • 5:37:36am

Got back on the birbie bus. Gonna work from home today and take MrsTarH to a doctor follow-up. Was so quiet at the office yesterday, which made getting menial paperwork out of the way fairly easy. And another 3-day weekend on the horizon! Be cool, Lizard peoples!

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No Malarkey!  Dec 29, 2022 • 5:39:06am

re: #68 The Pie Overlord!

Many years ago I read a Harry Turtledove novel in which apartheid-supporting white Afrikaaners time travel to the Civil War to bring AK-47’s to the Confederacy. I don’t remember how they replenished their ammo.

If I recall correctly, they figured out how to manufacture it with instructions from the Afrikaaners.

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 29, 2022 • 5:39:40am

Back-to-back pars. I’ll take it.

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jeffreyw  Dec 29, 2022 • 5:40:53am

Good morning!

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No Malarkey!  Dec 29, 2022 • 5:49:03am

When I think about how 2022 started: rampant inflation, a massive invasion of Ukraine by Russian fascists everyone expected to rapidly defeat Ukraine’s democratic government; an army of GOP election deniers seeking to take control of swing states and Congress to facilitate imposing another Trump presidency on America in 2025; the loss at the Supreme Court of women’s right to bodily autonomy; I can only be grateful that we are exiting 2022 in far better shape than it looked like we would be in. Never stop fighting for what is right and good. We won’t always win, but we won’t always lose either, unless we give up.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:05:23am

So, are we taking bets on whether Santos resigns before or after he is sworn in? If he was Dem, he would already be gone.

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darthstar  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:06:02am

re: #147 No Malarkey!

When I think about how 2022 started: rampant inflation, a massive invasion of Ukraine by Russian fascists everyone expected to rapidly defeat Ukraine’s democratic government; an army of GOP election deniers seeking to take control of swing states and Congress to facilitate imposing another Trump presidency on America in 2025; the loss at the Supreme Court of women’s right to bodily autonomy; I can only be grateful that we are exiting 2022 in far better shape than it looked like we would be in. Never stop fighting for what is right and good. We won’t always win, but we won’t always lose either, unless we give up.

The cascade of crises really made it look like it was going to be a shit show. I think the J6 hearings in the spring were helpful in that people felt like we were finally fighting back against those who wanted to destroy our democracy. That, and Ukraine’s resilience going into the summer. SCOTUS overstepped with Roe and that oddly helped save the Democrats from slaughter in November - despite the media’s best efforts to sell that narrative.

2023 is going to be rough. I expect Steve Scalise will be Speaker - everyone hates Qevin. So long as it’s not Jordan we can survive a chaotic House.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:06:30am

re: #146 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

You can get shot in Texas for having beans in your chili.

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darthstar  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:06:42am

re: #148 Dr. Matt

So, are we taking bets on whether Santos resigns before or after he is sworn in? If he was Dem, he would already be gone.

Feds are looking into his finances. He’ll be toast in a few months.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:07:06am

re: #148 Dr. Matt

So, are we taking bets on whether Santos resigns before or after he is sworn in? If he was Dem, he would already be gone.

I’m guessing he’ll do the Trump thing and try to hang on as long as he possibly can.

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jeffreyw  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:13:11am

re: #150 Dr. Matt

You can get shot in Texas for having beans in your chili.

Texas can just keep their tex-ass out of my chili.

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darthstar  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:17:12am

re: #153 jeffreyw

Texas can just keep their tex-ass out of my chili.

Texas’ inability to cook beans is their own problem. I love beans in my chili.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:20:31am

“Guilfoyle spoke for roughly two minutes and 45 seconds and delivered a 340-word speech. She was paid just over $176.47 per word.”

Wingnut welfare: Keeping batshit crazy freaks employed since 1980.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:25:07am

re: #155 Dr. Matt

“Guilfoyle spoke for roughly two minutes and 45 seconds and delivered a 340-word speech. She was paid just over $176.47 per word.”

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Wingnut welfare: Keeping batshit crazy freaks employed since 1980.

Damn, I’m in the wrong line of work…

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No Malarkey!  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:25:38am

re: #149 darthstar

The cascade of crises really made it look like it was going to be a shit show. I think the J6 hearings in the spring were helpful in that people felt like we were finally fighting back against those who wanted to destroy our democracy. That, and Ukraine’s resilience going into the summer. SCOTUS overstepped with Roe and that oddly helped save the Democrats from slaughter in November - despite the media’s best efforts to sell that narrative.

2023 is going to be rough. I expect Steve Scalise will be Speaker - everyone hates Qevin. So long as it’s not Jordan we can survive a chaotic House.

There will be some good things happening in states the Democrats gained control of, like Michigan; the US Senate will continue to appoint lots of new, diverse federal judges to help counteract the Trump judges; maybe we will get lucky and Biden will get the opportunity to nominate a Justice in the next two years; and Lula will be sworn in as President of Brazil on Sunday and provide some protection to the Amazon rainforest and the indigenous people who live there. The US House will be a shit show, but the GOP majority is so slim it won’t produce much except to beclown itself obsessing over Hunter’s laptop and producing other fodder for Fox News broadcasts. I don’t think they will be able to get the votes to impeach Biden or other federal officials on bogus charges.

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:27:29am

re: #155 Dr. Matt

“Guilfoyle spoke for roughly two minutes and 45 seconds and delivered a 340-word speech. She was paid just over $176.47 per word.”

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Wingnut welfare: Keeping batshit crazy freaks employed since 1980.

The total amount was pretty low for helping to incite the violent part of the coup attempt.
She usually just worked to radicalize idiots, but this was their big move that they should all go to prison for.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:28:20am

re: #151 darthstar

Feds are looking into his finances. He’ll be toast in a few months.

I heard that his corporation donated $700k to his campaign, which is highly illegal. Corporations are people, my friends.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:29:29am

So where has KKKanye gone?

Kanye West’s former business manager can’t find him to serve $4.5 million lawsuit

“Wild rumors are swirling that the artist now known as Ye is ‘missing’ - as his ex-business manager tries to serve him with a $4.5 million lawsuit, The US Sun reports,” reported Yaron Steinbuch. “Thomas St. John, who is suing the erratic ‘Gold Digger’ rapper and his company Yeezy over alleged unpaid fees, told a court that he has also been unable to find a proper address for Ye.”

“The rumors about the 45-year-old mogul’s whereabouts began to spread after a tweet sent by Daily Loud, who wrote: ‘Kanye West has reportedly been missing and unable to find [sic] for weeks according to his ex-business manager,’” said the report. “According to documents obtained by the news outlet, St. John on Dec. 19 sought an extension until the end of March to serve the lawsuit. The former business manager also has reportedly been unable to reach Ye’s legal team. ‘We were advised about a new law firm for defendants, but not a specific point of contact,’ the court filing cited by The US Sun states.”

rawstory.com

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No Malarkey!  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:30:23am

re: #158 Crush White Nationalism

The total amount was pretty low for helping to incite the violent part of the coup attempt.
She usually just worked to radicalize idiots, but this was their big move that they should all go to prison for.

I never saw any portion of her speech; unlike Rudy’s when he advocated “trial by combat,” so I don’t know how incendiary it was.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:31:20am

re: #160 Joe Bacon

So where has KKKanye gone?

Kanye West’s former business manager can’t find him to serve $4.5 million lawsuit

“Wild rumors are swirling that the artist now known as Ye is ‘missing’ - as his ex-business manager tries to serve him with a $4.5 million lawsuit, The US Sun reports,” reported Yaron Steinbuch. “Thomas St. John, who is suing the erratic ‘Gold Digger’ rapper and his company Yeezy over alleged unpaid fees, told a court that he has also been unable to find a proper address for Ye.”

“The rumors about the 45-year-old mogul’s whereabouts began to spread after a tweet sent by Daily Loud, who wrote: ‘Kanye West has reportedly been missing and unable to find [sic] for weeks according to his ex-business manager,’” said the report. “According to documents obtained by the news outlet, St. John on Dec. 19 sought an extension until the end of March to serve the lawsuit. The former business manager also has reportedly been unable to reach Ye’s legal team. ‘We were advised about a new law firm for defendants, but not a specific point of contact,’ the court filing cited by The US Sun states.”

rawstory.com

It would be a shame if we never saw or heard from him ever again./

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Florida Panhandler  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:33:38am

re: #162 No Malarkey!

It would be a shame if we never saw or heard from him ever again./

Guest of Putin, perhaps?

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Dave In Austin  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:35:36am

re: #140 Dangerman

I saw Poseidon holding a limp penis…..

🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤔

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darthstar  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:36:03am

Shot : Chaser

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Joe Bacon  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:36:42am

re: #162 No Malarkey!

It would be a shame if we never saw or heard from him ever again./

Hmmm wonder why nobody is asking Ali Alexander when KKKanye is? After all Asshole Ali is his “campaign manager”!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:36:53am

re: #163 Florida Panhandler

Guest of Putin, perhaps?

This was one of my theories. It may also be one of his new RWNJ buddies is shielding him somewhere.

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:37:24am

re: #161 No Malarkey!

I never saw any portion of her speech; unlike Rudy’s when he advocated “trial by combat,” so I don’t know how incendiary it was.

I don’t either, but just being on that stage was a big risk. He’d already refused to accept his loss and the coup plot was in progress.

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:43:05am

re: #148 Dr. Matt

So, are we taking bets on whether Santos resigns before or after he is sworn in? If he was Dem, he would already be gone.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:43:26am

Would you trust agents totally corrupted by Trump?

thedailybeast.com

Biden Doesn’t Trust His Secret Service—and Thinks Dog Bite Was a Lie

President Biden’s trust in the men and women sworn to defend him isn’t a given, according to a new book, The Fight of His Life: Inside Joe Biden’s White House. According to author Chris Whipple, Biden’s relationship with the agency has been testy since he entered the office, noting that “some of” the agents were staunch supporters of Donald Trump. Tensions have only grown since text messages by agents, obtained by the House Select Committee investigating Jan. 6, revealed that some who remained within the security detail had rooted for the attack on the Capitol. The change in attitude stands in stark contrast to his feelings toward the agency when he was vice president, according to The Independent, which obtained an advance version of the book ahead of its Jan. 17 release date. The relationship was reportedly further strained after an agent claimed that the president’s dog, a German Shepherd named Major, had bitten him on the second floor of the White House’s family quarter in March 2021 — an allegation that Biden doesn’t quite believe, according to the outlet.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:43:33am

re: #154 darthstar

Texas’ inability to cook beans is their own problem. I love beans in my chili.

Beans….. In Texas Chili.

Yep, every time

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darthstar  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:45:39am

Ukrainians are really good with the MANPADS.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:45:59am

re: #153 jeffreyw

You can get shot in Texas for having beans in your chili.

Texas can just keep their tex-ass out of my chili

Jeffrey the greatest chili I ever ate was Phyllis Diller’s Chicken Chili!

I would buy half a dozen cans at a time it was that good!

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Dave In Austin  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:47:30am

re: #160 Joe Bacon

You’ll find him in Elmo’s laundry room posing as an unwashed hoodie.

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:50:09am

re: #169 Dangerman

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:50:36am

Thursday word is extra tricksy.
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Joe Bacon  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:50:52am

re: #174 Dave In Austin

You’ll find him in Elmo’s laundry room posing as an unwashed hoodie.

Oh I’m looking at my QAsshole relatives posts to see if this has been picked up. Just waiting for those fools to post that THE DEEP STATE GOT YE…

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2022 • 6:54:27am

re: #175 Dangerman

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Florida Panhandler  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:06:02am

re: #170 Joe Bacon

Would you trust agents totally corrupted by Trump?

thedailybeast.com

Biden Doesn’t Trust His Secret Service—and Thinks Dog Bite Was a Lie

President Biden’s trust in the men and women sworn to defend him isn’t a given, according to a new book, The Fight of His Life: Inside Joe Biden’s White House. According to author Chris Whipple, Biden’s relationship with the agency has been testy since he entered the office, noting that “some of” the agents were staunch supporters of Donald Trump. Tensions have only grown since text messages by agents, obtained by the House Select Committee investigating Jan. 6, revealed that some who remained within the security detail had rooted for the attack on the Capitol. The change in attitude stands in stark contrast to his feelings toward the agency when he was vice president, according to The Independent, which obtained an advance version of the book ahead of its Jan. 17 release date. The relationship was reportedly further strained after an agent claimed that the president’s dog, a German Shepherd named Major, had bitten him on the second floor of the White House’s family quarter in March 2021 — an allegation that Biden doesn’t quite believe, according to the outlet.

For some strange reason, VP Pence also seemed extremely wary of his own Secret Service detail during Jan. 6.

Sort of begs the question of….why?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:09:46am

re: #144 No Malarkey!

If I recall correctly, they figured out how to manufacture it with instructions from the Afrikaaners.

And the Union captured enough to reverse engineer it and have their own variant within a few years. IIRC, they also use this opportunity to invade Canada and take it from the UK.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:14:08am

re: #180 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Guns of the South was a good story - had all sorts of motifs that would get the right-whingers both excited about (a return to silver/gold monetary system) and really cranked about - women disguised as men serving in the southern army.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:20:04am

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No Malarkey!  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:20:39am

One of the other candidates was arrested on felony domestic battery charges this year, so we’re looking at the typical GOP cream of the crop.

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:24:46am
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Florida Panhandler  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:25:23am

re: #183 No Malarkey!

One of the other candidates was arrested on felony domestic battery charges this year, so we’re looking at the typical GOP cream of the crop.

Wouldn’t be too surprised if it comes as a complete surprise to her that a defendant gets to mount their own actual defense in court.

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:27:04am
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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:27:05am

re: #182 Dave In Austin

I remembered this morning that I had heard of Tate before. The context was mothers appalled that their little boys were becoming misogynistic scumbags and Tate was the cause.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:28:15am

re: #187 Crush White Nationalism

I remembered this morning that I had heard of Tate before. The context was mothers appalled that their little boys were becoming misogynistic scumbags and Tate was the cause.

Not just little boys—30, 40 and 50 year old nephews and grandnephews of mine worship the ground Tate walks on.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:28:20am

re: #187 Crush White Nationalism

I remembered this morning that I had heard of Tate before. The context was mothers appalled that their little boys were becoming misogynistic scumbags and Tate was the cause.

Yep, there was an excellent article about that someone shared here a while back. I wish I could remember what the source was.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:29:04am

re: #189 Eclectic Cyborg

Yep, there was an excellent article about that someone shared here a while back. I wish I could remember what the source was.

This is from The Guardian.

theguardian.com

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:30:43am

Rando:

Let’s see.

The House GOP can’t seem to find enough votes to get a Speaker elected, even with 222 Republicans.

Spy45 is facing multiple indictments, his tax return release will show the world he’s poor and his 2024 campaign is barely functioning.

Senate Republicans have no ability to stop Biden from appointing judges to every federal vacancy, and Senate Democrats will have subpoena power this term.

George Santos is quickly becoming the face of the GOP and his multiple lies keep multiplying.

Tell me again how Democrats are the party in disarray

Oh:
Cultist: “The election was stolen! Everyone knows it! It’s obvious!”

Normal person: “Can you provide proof?

Cultist: “Hunter’s laptop

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:31:52am

re: #188 Joe Bacon

Not just little boys—30, 40 and 50 year old nephews and grandnephews of mine worship the ground Tate walks on.

Two days in and I still never heard of him. //

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gocart mozart  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:32:24am
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No Malarkey!  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:34:03am

The Kentucky General Assembly is returning for its 2023 session next week, and they are determined to eliminate Kentucky’s state income tax as rapidly as they can; a windfall for the wealthy that will likely end in disaster like in Kansas.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:34:19am
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No Malarkey!  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:37:26am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:38:37am

re: #155 Dr. Matt

“Guilfoyle spoke for roughly two minutes and 45 seconds and delivered a 340-word speech. She was paid just over $176.47 per word.”

Wingnut welfare: Keeping batshit crazy freaks employed since 1980.

And she demanded payment before she delivered her remarks. She may be foul, but she’s no fool. She knows exactly who she’s dealing with, LOL.

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sizzzzlerz  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:41:13am

re: #119 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

(3:02, with virtual player piano roll)

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Video

While they’re pretty and all, Maple Leaf Rag needs no eye candy. Just watching those hands dance across the keyboard is showy enough for me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:45:33am

re: #184 Dangerman

what a boneheaded way to look at this

Andrew Tate taunted Greta Thunberg about his car collection. Some say her response was ‘iconic,’ but others think she body-shamed him.

There is nothing inherently shameful about having a small dick so what’s the problem?

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sizzzzlerz  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:47:20am

re: #162 No Malarkey!

It would be a shame if we never saw or heard from him ever again./

I can think of at least a dozen more who’d fall into that same category.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:49:15am

re: #200 sizzzzlerz

I can think of at least a dozen more who’d fall into that same category.

Yeah, like Alex fucking Jones.

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Jay C  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:50:11am

re: #197 Dr Lizardo

And she demanded payment before she delivered her remarks. She may be foul, but she’s no fool. She knows exactly who she’s dealing with, LOL.

At that rate, I would only be too happy to take $352.97 to deliver a two-word address to a gang of MAGAts.

Hint: they won’t be “Happy Holidays”….

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Joe Bacon  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:50:41am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

re: #184 Dangerman

what a boneheaded way to look at this

Andrew Tate taunted Greta Thunberg about his car collection. Some say her response was ‘iconic,’ but others think she body-shamed him.

If you didn’t click on the Guardian link I posted about Tate above let me boil down what that piece of shit is.

A British-American former kickboxing champ who was kicked off a British reality TV show, has a violent-sex fetish to such a degree that he was caught on video beating a woman with a belt while telling her to count her bruises out loud and moved to Romania to take advantage of their lax physical/sexual/domestic abuse laws and is such a megalomaniac that he turned to grifting on TT and in other ways by milking angry imbecile incel men by pandering to their gross misogyny. Dude is filth of the lowest order.

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sizzzzlerz  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:52:13am

re: #201 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah, like Alex fucking Jones.

He’s one. TFG, pillow man, elon, and kanye are a few more.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:54:36am

re: #123 Targetpractice

Roddenberry was an ideas guy, you could call him into a TV exec’s office and he’d pitch ideas for several TV shows that would sound interesting and full of potential. But then you’d greenlight one of them and find out that he only ever had the base outline in mind of what he wanted. That was most obvious in the ill-fated third season of TOS, when all the talented members of the writing staff saw the writing on the wall and jumped ship, leaving him and the guys with no better job prospects to muddle through under the new producer’s mandates until the axe came down.

Roddenberry left the show after season two. He kept the executive producer title, but moved his office to another building, and concentrated on a different job after they changed the broadcast date/time.

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mmmirele  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:55:31am

Getting ready for the most annoying hour of the day at work,

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:56:19am

re: #160 Joe Bacon

So where has KKKanye gone?

Kanye West’s former business manager can’t find him to serve $4.5 million lawsuit

He is hiding out in Argentina like a regular nazi.

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A Cranky One  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:57:11am
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 29, 2022 • 7:59:48am

re: #131 steve_davis

The first two seasons of tng are horrifically bad. Then Worf has the child with his human wife and it’s like “are we not past this bullshit yet? Not gonna happen. Can’t cross-breed pigs and goats either.”

Worf’s wife was half Klingon. In any case, Spock had established that in the ST universe humanoid species could cross-breed. And then there was the TNG episode The Chase that retconned this by providing an explanation — that all humanoid species were descendants of some extra-galactic species that visited our galaxy eons ago.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:02:50am

re: #205 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Roddenberry left the show after season two. He kept the executive producer title, but moved his office to another building, and concentrated on a different job after they changed the broadcast date/time.

Yeah he turned the third season of TOS over to Fred Freiberger after both Leslie Stevens and Joseph Stefano who co-created The Outer Limits turned down the producer offer for the 3rd season of Trek. Both of them saw the handwriting on the wall and they remembered how ABC screwed both of them when it came to the second season of Outer Limits and they were both forced out by the network.

Bob Justman was Roddenberry’s Associate Producer for the first two seasons, Paramount wouldn’t promote him to full producer and he wound up endlessly doing Freiberger’s work until he couldn’t take it anymore and he left. Justman wrote about his extremely rocky relationship with Freiberger.

Based on that track record Gerry Anderson shouldn’t have hired Freiberger for the second season of Space 1999. But he was forced to hire him and sure enough Freiberger killed that show off too.

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wrenchwench  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:04:48am

re: #208 A Cranky One

Better than it should be:

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Video

Not by much.

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:06:19am

re: #150 Dr. Matt

You can get shot in Texas for having beans in your chili.

It’s probably because I live in the DFW area, which is only partially Texan, but:

You can get chili with beans or without. I will eat it both ways if I’m just having chili, but I dont want beans in it if it’s going on a hotdogs.

You can root for the Cowboys, the Steelers, the 49ers, the Washington team, the Eagles, the Bills, the Raiders, or the Broncos (strangely, I haven’t seen a Giants fan).

You can get your barbecue plain, with Texas bbq sauce, North Carolina sauce, and even Korean.

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:07:33am

re: #184 Dangerman

what a boneheaded way to look at this

Andrew Tate taunted Greta Thunberg about his car collection. Some say her response was ‘iconic,’ but others think she body-shamed him.

Someone should ask him if he felt body-shamed.

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:08:07am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is nothing inherently shameful about having a small dick so what’s the problem?

Besides aren’t they all saying she self-pwned because she gave it out as her email address? //

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:08:40am

re: #205 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Roddenberry left the show after season two. He kept the executive producer title, but moved his office to another building, and concentrated on a different job after they changed the broadcast date/time.

Yep, they basically kicked him upstairs to get him out of the way.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:09:02am

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:09:34am

re: #203 Joe Bacon

If you didn’t click on the Guardian link I posted about Tate above let me boil down what that piece of shit is.

A British-American former kickboxing champ who was kicked off a British reality TV show, has a violent-sex fetish to such a degree that he was caught on video beating a woman with a belt while telling her to count her bruises out loud and moved to Romania to take advantage of their lax physical/sexual/domestic abuse laws and is such a megalomaniac that he turned to grifting on TT and in other ways by milking angry imbecile incel men by pandering to their gross misogyny. Dude is filth of the lowest order.

Thanks

Nope
Still haven’t heard of him
Likely I never will
//

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:10:56am

re: #146 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

Western good morning!

A plant designed by a committee
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:11:22am

re: #142 No Malarkey!

The 2022 midterms were a win for democracy. We didn’t see extremists make significant efforts to interfere with voting; election deniers who ran for posts where they would be able to interfere in the certification process in key swing states lost their races and mostly conceded; the election deniers in Arizona lost their court challenges to their electoral defeats; confidence in election results improved, and the Electoral Count Act reforms to try to prevent another legalistic coup such as Trump attempted in 2020 passed.

We of course wanted to succeed in the Democrats’ long-shot bid to retain control of Congress so that more substantive legislation could be passed in the next two years. We failed in that as the GOP won a small majority in the House, however that has always been the nature of American politics; we mostly muddle through with only rare moments of sweeping change, usually brought about by some crisis that upends the political landscape. However, seeing as there have been recent dark times in which a slide into a dystopian, corrupt fascist government seemed likely, muddling through looks good in comparison. In 2022, we lived to fight another day.

Unfortunately, while the outright deniers lost, those who are continuing on the road to disenfranchise as many minorities as possible have seen repeated success in their ventures. Taking them off voting rolls, precise gerrymandering, continuing to disenfranchise ex-felons, not providing sufficient polling places, forcing people to wait in line for hours to discourage them from voting, cutting back on early voting — anything to stop Democrats from voting, as opposed to refusing to count their votes once cast. Kemp and Raffensperger are perfect examples.

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:12:31am

re: #215 Eclectic Cyborg

Yep, they basically kicked him upstairs to get him out of the way.

Peter Roddenberry

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:15:19am

re: #219 Hecuba’s daughter

Unfortunately, while the outright deniers lost, those who are continuing on the road to disenfranchise as many minorities as possible have seen repeated success in their ventures. Taking them off voting rolls, precise gerrymandering, continuing to disenfranchise ex-felons, not providing sufficient polling places, forcing people to wait in line for hours to discourage them from voting, cutting back on early voting — anything to stop Democrats from voting, as opposed to refusing to count their votes once cast. Kemp and Raffensperger are perfect examples.

Every damn vote counts

When looking at the vote counts, the closeness becomes even clearer. Republicans won the popular vote for the House by under 3 points and that would have been under 2 points if both parties had fielded candidates in all districts. For the Senate, Republicans won more votes than Democrats by 0.1%. However, if the Democrats had fielded a candidate in Utah instead of endorsing independent Evan McMullin, they would have gotten more votes nationwide. Democrats did get more votes for governor than the Republicans—by 0.3%. All of these numbers show that the country is balanced on knife edge. As we noted on Tuesday, if the Democrats had gotten 6,675 votes distributed in just the right way in the closest five districts, they would have held the House.

Today’s electoral-vote.com

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Joe Bacon  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:22:45am

That ain’t gonna work Short Eyes!

Josh Duggar seeks a new trial because judge refused to let him blame someone else for ‘depraved’ downloads

The former star of TLC’s “19 Kids and Counting” was prohibited from telling a jury about an “alternative perpetrator” because a judge didn’t find his theory plausible, but Duggar’s attorney filed an appeal seeking a new trial following his December 2021 conviction for downloading and possessing child sexual abuse material, reported Law & Crime.

Duggar was sentenced to more than 12 years, which he is currently serving at the low-security prison in Seagoville, Texas, after prosecutors asked for a tough sentence based on the “depraved” material, including photographs and videos that showed the abuse of children as young as toddlers, found hidden behind multiple layers of encryption on his work computer.

rawstory.com

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wrenchwench  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:31:08am

I made a five letter four.

Wordle 558 4/6*

⬛⬛🟨⬛⬛
🟨🟨⬛🟨⬛
🟨⬛🟨🟩🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

One of those is two words, not in english. Does it help to study the list of words they use?

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The Squire of Logos  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:31:32am

re: #215 Eclectic Cyborg

Yep, they basically kicked him upstairs to get him out of the way.

They did the same thing after ST:TMP. Despite his efforts to get involved in the production of Wrath of Khan.

That was a motivator for him to develop TNG. Which as others have pointed out had a horrible and at best uneven first two seasons. If you want to see what an absolute shit-show surrounded the making of those first two seasons of TNG, watch “Chaos on the Bridge.” Narrated and hosted by Shatner, it is an absolute eye-popping look at the people involved in the show. It is amazing it survived those first two years.

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John Hughes  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:33:50am

re: #181 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Guns of the South was a good story

Poor ripoff of the Harry Harrison story A rebel in time, filled with stuff about how the south wasn’t that bad really.

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:34:57am

re: #209 Hecuba’s daughter

Worf’s wife was half Klingon. In any case, Spock had established that in the ST universe humanoid species could cross-breed. And then there was the TNG episode The Chase that retconned this by providing an explanation — that all humanoid species were descendants of some extra-galactic species that visited our galaxy eons ago.

Yep. It’s much more like breeds of dog than pigs and goats.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:36:14am

re: #203 Joe Bacon

If you didn’t click on the Guardian link I posted about Tate above let me boil down what that piece of shit is.

A British-American former kickboxing champ who was kicked off a British reality TV show, has a violent-sex fetish to such a degree that he was caught on video beating a woman with a belt while telling her to count her bruises out loud and moved to Romania to take advantage of their lax physical/sexual/domestic abuse laws and is such a megalomaniac that he turned to grifting on TT and in other ways by milking angry imbecile incel men by pandering to their gross misogyny. Dude is filth of the lowest order.

And Musk let him back on Twitter — proving again Musk is as despicable as any of the worst of Trump acolytes.

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:37:56am

This guy’s an over-the-top caricature of a right-wing asshole, but I don’t think it’s intentional.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:38:10am

re: #215 Eclectic Cyborg

Yep, they basically kicked him upstairs to get him out of the way.

No, he was executive producer from the start.

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John Hughes  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:38:18am

re: #184 Dangerman

The whole “she body shamed him” thing implicitly says he has a small dick but we’re supposed to not mention it out of politeness.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:38:34am
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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:39:21am

re: #222 Joe Bacon

That ain’t gonna work Short Eyes!

Josh Duggar seeks a new trial because judge refused to let him blame someone else for ‘depraved’ downloads

The former star of TLC’s “19 Kids and Counting” was prohibited from telling a jury about an “alternative perpetrator” because a judge didn’t find his theory plausible, but Duggar’s attorney filed an appeal seeking a new trial following his December 2021 conviction for downloading and possessing child sexual abuse material, reported Law & Crime.

Duggar was sentenced to more than 12 years, which he is currently serving at the low-security prison in Seagoville, Texas, after prosecutors asked for a tough sentence based on the “depraved” material, including photographs and videos that showed the abuse of children as young as toddlers, found hidden behind multiple layers of encryption on his work computer.

rawstory.com

19 Kids and Counting has a whole new meaning since he was exposed as a pedophile.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:43:14am

re: #229 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

No, he was executive producer from the start.

Gene was the line producer for the first half of TOS. Gene Coon came on during the second half of TOS first season and turned the producer chores over to John Merydith Lucas for the second half of season 2.

Frieberger was the producer of Season 3 with Bob Justman as “Co-Producer” for the first half of Season 3 Justman left to go to MGM to develop and produce Then Came Bronson. Nobody replaced Justman when he left.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:44:53am

re: #228 Crush White Nationalism

This guy’s an over-the-top caricature of a right-wing asshole, but I don’t think it’s intentional.

I’ve following this shit account for awhile. Is it a giant troll, or is he really this stupid?

I can no longer tell.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:47:03am

re: #229 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

No, he was executive producer from the start.

Correct, but they removed him from working on TNG day-to-day and gave him some other (mostly ceremonial) role at the same pay rate. He kept his EP credit for TNG, but was not actively involved with production from season 3 onwards.

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jeffreyw  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:47:54am

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The Squire of Logos  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:48:04am

re: #234 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I’ve following this shit account for awhile. Is it a giant troll, or is he really this stupid?

I can no longer tell.

Never attribute to trollish behavior what can be adequately explained by stupidity.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:51:49am

re: #234 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I’ve following this shit account for awhile. Is it a giant troll, or is he really this stupid?

I can no longer tell.

So Nick Adams is an example of a Poe? It’s not possible to distinguish between mockery and true belief.

Yesterday, there was a Twitter comment on the Tate-Thunberg exchange that I took seriously until another person replied “Isn’t that missing the ‘/s’”, and I suddenly was unclear about the intent of the original poster. After looking at his timeline, I think (but am not sure) that the original post was meant as sarcasm.

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:54:03am

re: #234 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I’ve following this shit account for awhile. Is it a giant troll, or is he really this stupid?

I can no longer tell.

I think he’s genuinely stupid.

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The Squire of Logos  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:54:10am

re: #235 Eclectic Cyborg

Correct, but they removed him from working on TNG day-to-day and gave him some other (mostly ceremonial) role at the same pay rate. He kept his EP credit for TNG, but was not actively involved with production from season 3 onwards.

Roddenberry would tell fans he was ‘protecting’ Star Trek from studio greed. But the reality was, he was only interested in it when it was making money for him. Otherwise it was on to other projects (one of which was actually intriguing… Spectre, starring Robert Culp).

I still remember him appearing at conventions and telling fans that he had to change Ellison’s script of City on the Edge of Forever because Ellison had Scotty dealing drugs. No, Ellison’s script did not have Scotty dealing drugs. It was more of Roddenberry ‘protecting’ Star Trek, in this case from something that never happened.

Great Bird of the Galaxy my ass.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:59:09am

re: #240 The Squire of Logos

Roddenberry would tell fans he was ‘protecting’ Star Trek from studio greed. But the reality was, he was only interested in it when it was making money for him. Otherwise it was on to other projects (one of which was actually intriguing… Spectre, starring Robert Culp).

I still remember him appearing at conventions and telling fans that he had to change Ellison’s script of City on the Edge of Forever because Ellison had Scotty dealing drugs. No, Ellison’s script did not have Scotty dealing drugs. It was more of Roddenberry ‘protecting’ Star Trek, in this case from something that never happened.

Great Bird of the Galaxy my ass.

It was Harlan who led the campaign to get Star Trek renewed for the second season. And the thanks he got for doing that…he was stabbed in the back.

Harlan’s original script didn’t have Scotty dealing drugs to another crewman. It had another crewman doing that who wound up jumping thru the Guardian and winding up for all eternity inside a star being burned alive.

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2022 • 8:59:33am

re: #239 Crush White Nationalism

I think he’s genuinely stupid.

Its possible to be a stupid troll

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The Squire of Logos  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:02:34am

re: #241 Joe Bacon

It was Harlan who led the campaign to get Star Trek renewed for the second season. And the thanks he got for doing that…he was stabbed in the back.

Harlan’s original script didn’t have Scotty dealing drugs to another crewman. It had another crewman doing that who wound up jumping thru the Guardian and winding up for all eternity inside a star being burned alive.

Exactly.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:04:00am

re: #235 Eclectic Cyborg

Correct, but they removed him from working on TNG day-to-day and gave him some other (mostly ceremonial) role at the same pay rate. He kept his EP credit for TNG, but was not actively involved with production from season 3 onwards.

I was talking about TOS.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:04:34am

The RW base: Texted the Southwest-Covid joke to a RW friend which he enjoyed, but then he responded with a “joke” about SW luggage and Sam Brinton, which I did not understand because I don’t live in the Fox-Breitbart world and had never heard of Brinton.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:05:00am

It came out after both Irwin Allen and Gene Roddenberry died that they both kept “intelligence” files on each other.

NBC was looking for a replacement for Star Trek during the second season. They approached Allen and he came up with his “City Beneath The Sea” concept. He provided a short film synopsis to NBC that Roddenberry found out about which had similarities to Star Trek’s cast.

City Beneath the Sea (1967)

NBC almost picked this instead of renewing Star Trek.

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The Squire of Logos  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:11:12am

re: #246 Joe Bacon

It came out after both Irwin Allen and Gene Roddenberry died that they both kept “intelligence” files on each other.

NBC was looking for a replacement for Star Trek during the second season. They approached Allen and he came up with his “City Beneath The Sea” concept. He provided a short film synopsis to NBC that Roddenberry found out about which had similarities to Star Trek’s cast.

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NBC almost picked this instead of renewing Star Trek.

Wow. You can tell that’s Irwin Allen. Lots of splodey things and fire.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:12:20am

re: #247 The Squire of Logos

Note the sets recycled from Lost In Space, Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea and Time Tunnel!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:18:57am

re: #244 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

I was talking about TOS.

Oh. Whoops. My bad. Carry on.

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gocart mozart  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:24:22am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:24:29am

re: #237 The Squire of Logos

Never attribute to trollish behavior what can be adequately explained by stupidity.

Yeah. I think your interpretation is most likely correct.

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William Lewis  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:24:58am

re: #247 The Squire of Logos

Wow. You can tell that’s Irwin Allen. Lots of splodey things and fire.

I liked the first season of “Voyage…” but after that I’ll pass.

I’d don’t know if Allen was as slimy as a person as Roddenberry could be, but Allen’s shows all seemed like variations of the same thing to me, rather like an actor who only plays one character, himself.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:28:05am

re: #252 William Lewis

Allen’s shows all seemed like variations of the same thing to me, rather like an actor who only plays one character, himself.

The Chris Pratt effect.

/

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darthstar  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:30:46am

Boss is asking people to volunteer to work through Dec 31 to make quotas.

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Jay C  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:30:56am

re: #248 Joe Bacon

Note the sets recycled from Lost In Space, Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea and Time Tunnel!

It was Irwin Allen: a Hollywood/TV pioneer in recycling: sets, props, stock footage, scripts/plots: he never tossed anything permanently if he could help it.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:34:04am

re: #254 darthstar

Big Testicles…..

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A Three Hour Tour  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:38:21am

re: #246 Joe Bacon

It came out after both Irwin Allen and Gene Roddenberry died that they both kept “intelligence” files on each other.

NBC was looking for a replacement for Star Trek during the second season. They approached Allen and he came up with his “City Beneath The Sea” concept. He provided a short film synopsis to NBC that Roddenberry found out about which had similarities to Star Trek’s cast.

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Video

NBC almost picked this instead of renewing Star Trek.

Is that Lawrence (Stonn from “Amok Time”) Montaigne as the exotic, logical, amphibian bootleg Spock?

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A Three Hour Tour  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:40:17am

re: #257 A Three Hour Tour

Is that Lawrence (Stonn from “Amok Time”) Montaigne as the exotic, logical, amphibian bootleg Spock?

EDITED TO ADD: That’s what I get for posting before getting to the end of the pitch video, where Irwin finally credited his cast. It was.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:40:28am

re: #254 darthstar

Boss is asking people to volunteer to work through Dec 31 to make quotas.

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Other car companies like Ford and GM close down the last week in December. Also, he is asking workers to “volunteer” does this mean they don’t get paid?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:42:55am

re: #254 darthstar

Boss is asking people to volunteer to work through Dec 31 to make quotas.

[Embedded content]

Well, these folks are salaried right? Scuzzy as this may be, he’s not really asking them to work “off the clock”.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:46:20am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:47:54am

re: #254 darthstar

Boss is asking people to volunteer to work through Dec 31 to make quotas.

“Volunteer” is carrying a heavy load here: free, no compensation; throw your time-off and take normal pay; or (not happening) get holiday pay at 1.5-3.0x normal pay?

I’m going with volunteer being no compensation.

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Teukka  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:48:51am

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:48:56am

Seeing mention of Irwin Allen, I’d say that Roland Emmerich is the modern successor to Allen’s “Master of Disaster” title.

2012 - All Destruction Scenes HD

Even Moonfall, while profoundly silly, had some entertaining disaster scenes:

When Moon Touches Earth | Moonfall 2022

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:49:31am

re: #261 The Pie Overlord!

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:52:24am

re: #253 Eclectic Cyborg

The Chris Pratt effect.

/

Vin Diesel did it before him.

Then again, most actors play themselves. I can only name a few actors that truly have range. For story telling purposes, though, there aren’t a huge number of character types that need to be played. The only actor I actually truly tire of seeing because his same role is annoying is Vince Vaughn. His arc is: idiot who takes a long time to learn and then when he does he breaks into a loud explanation of why you can’t live without him.

My list of actors who are so good they can play multiple character types:
Meryl Streep - probably the greatest living actor
Gary Oldman
Anthony Hopkins

I’m sure there are others, but I haven’t watched every movie or show in existence.

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Teukka  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:53:50am

NOW HEAR THIS, NOW HEAR THIS. The Finns have entered the fray. I repeat, the Finns have entered the fray. That is all. yle.fi

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:55:49am

re: #266 Belafon

My list of actors who are so good they can play multiple character types:
Meryl Streep - probably the greatest living actor
Gary Oldman
Anthony Hopkins

I’m sure there are others, but I haven’t watched every movie or show in existence.

I would add to that list:

Christian Bale
Philip Seymour Hoffman (RIP)
John Lithgow
Tim Curry
Daniel Day-Lewis
Helen Mirren

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:56:05am

re: #266 Belafon

Keep an eye on Dave Bautista. He’s emerging as a good actor and he’s committed to pursuing his art, taking different types of roles.

Not saying Dave’s gonna get an Oscar nod, but I’m enjoying watching his evolution as an actor.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:57:11am

re: #269 Dr Lizardo

Agreed. I’ve been a fan of the guy since his wrestling days.

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William Lewis  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:57:32am

re: #266 Belafon

Daniel Radcliffe seems that way to me.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 29, 2022 • 9:59:28am

re: #271 William Lewis

Daniel Radcliffe seems that way to me.

Robert Pattinson, too. He earned my respect holding his own against Willem Dafoe in The Lighthouse. Prior to that, I associated him with the Twilight trilogy, but The Lighthouse changed my mind about him.

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wrenchwench  Dec 29, 2022 • 10:00:13am

re: #268 Eclectic Cyborg

I would add to that list:

Christian Bale
Philip Seymour Hoffman (RIP)
John Lithgow
Tim Curry
Daniel Day-Lewis
Helen Mirren

Linda Hunt

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Dec 29, 2022 • 10:08:00am

re: #273 wrenchwench

Probably, there are many we don’t know about. Once you’ve done well in one film/TV role, that’s all anyone asks you to play.

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2022 • 10:14:26am

re: #274 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Probably, there are many we don’t know about. Once you’ve done well in one film/TV role, that’s all anyone asks you to play.

Now that you mention this, I should have added Tom Hanks, who showed that you can break out of it.

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wrenchwench  Dec 29, 2022 • 10:15:06am

re: #274 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Probably, there are many we don’t know about. Once you’ve done well in one film/TV role, that’s all anyone asks you to play.

I first saw her as Billy Kwan. Every time after that, it’s a shock to see her.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2022 • 10:15:22am

Also, shoutout to Robin Williams. He was known for his comedic work for his entire career, but in the early aughts he took on a number of roles in which he played creepy and scary dudes and did a REALLY good job.

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Teukka  Dec 29, 2022 • 10:18:55am

re: #277 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, shoutout to Robin Williams. He was known for his comedic work for his entire career, but in the early aughts he took on a number of roles in which he played creepy and scary dudes and did a REALLY good job.

How is it the saying goes?
“There is nothing funny about a clown by moonlight.”
(Lon Chaney Sr).

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piratedan  Dec 29, 2022 • 10:20:09am

re: #273 wrenchwench

I would add others…

Tom Hanks
Jeff Bridges
Amy Adams
Cate Blanchette
Sandra Bullock

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William Lewis  Dec 29, 2022 • 10:22:08am

re: #278 Teukka

How is it the saying goes?
“There is nothing funny about a clown by moonlight.”
(Lon Chaney Sr).

Heh.

Just dancing with the devil in the pale moonlight…

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BigPapa  Dec 29, 2022 • 10:24:43am

re: #277 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, shoutout to Robin Williams. He was known for his comedic work for his entire career, but in the early aughts he took on a number of roles in which he played creepy and scary dudes and did a REALLY good job.

The World According to Garp was where he showed his range outside of comedy to me. There were some very funny parts in that movie but it was top-notch drama.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2022 • 10:26:17am

re: #280 William Lewis

Heh.

Just dancing with the devil in the pale moonlight…

On that note, Jack Nicholson is also an actor with pretty good range.

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gocart mozart  Dec 29, 2022 • 10:27:28am
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wrenchwench  Dec 29, 2022 • 10:31:27am

re: #283 gocart mozart

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I can’t believe I’ve never seen that before.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 29, 2022 • 10:33:01am

Well, well, well….

Additional claims that Rep.-elect George Santos (R-N.Y.) fabricated information about his personal background have emerged, adding to mounting questions about his résumé and personal history.

Santos claimed earlier this year that his maternal grandparents changed their last name from Zabrovsky to conceal their Jewish heritage. Records show that the newly elected representative used the alias “Anthony Zabrovsky” for a pet charity on GoFundMe, the web page for which no longer exists.

_______

News outlets have questioned Santos’s claims about his family in recent weeks, citing genealogy records that show his grandparents were born in Brazil before the Nazis rose to power. Santos claimed that they emigrated to Brazil during World War II.

Author and professional genealogist Megan Smolenyak, who researched Santos’s family history for CNN, told the outlet that “there’s no sign of Jewish and/or Ukrainian heritage and no indication of name changes along the way.”

thehill.com

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 29, 2022 • 10:34:22am

Funny, crudely drawn, yet accurate.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 29, 2022 • 10:34:33am

re: #283 gocart mozart

Memories of seeing Johnny at the Wheeling Stampede and his special guest was Roy Buchanan.

Memories of Roy. Saw him lots of times in Western PA & West Virginia.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2022 • 10:35:36am

re: #285 Dr Lizardo

We’re gonna find out the guys real name isn’t George Santos pretty soon, aren’t we?

Half /

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2022 • 10:36:32am
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darthstar  Dec 29, 2022 • 10:37:32am

Is he landing a plane or playing Ms Pac-Man?

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 29, 2022 • 10:38:49am

re: #288 Eclectic Cyborg

We’re gonna find out the guys real name isn’t George Santos pretty soon, aren’t we?

Half /

I’d never make it as a journalist, because if I was interviewing him, I’d say, “Welcome to our program, Mr. Santos - if that is indeed your real name. The first question I’d like to ask is…..”

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Jay C  Dec 29, 2022 • 10:40:01am

re: #288 Eclectic Cyborg

We’re gonna find out the guys real name isn’t George Santos pretty soon, aren’t we?

Half /

Well, at least it won’t be “Yehuda Zabrovsky”….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2022 • 10:41:06am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2022 • 10:51:04am

re: #289 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Failure to comply will be considered insubordination.”

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Semper Fi  Dec 29, 2022 • 10:57:17am

re: #184 Dangerman

what a boneheaded way to look at this

Andrew Tate taunted Greta Thunberg about his car collection. Some say her response was ‘iconic,’ but others think she body-shamed him.

I think it was iconic with a body slam at the end.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2022 • 10:58:29am

“Others think she body-shamed him.”

Yes, and those people are known as FUCKING IDIOTS.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 29, 2022 • 11:00:35am

♪♬Early in the evening
Just around supper time
Over at the Taco Bell
Chalupas on my mind…
♪♫

CCR chowin’ down at a San Luis Obispo Taco Bell, 1969
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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 29, 2022 • 11:01:36am

re: #296 Eclectic Cyborg

“Others think she body-shamed him.”

Yes, and those people are known as FUCKING IDIOTS.

You can always find idiots on the Internet. It’s a choice to include their stupid unsupported beliefs in an article, and not a good one.

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2022 • 11:02:07am

re: #254 darthstar

Boss is asking people to volunteer to work through Dec 31 to make quotas.

[Embedded content]

“Final few days” sounds ominous

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Joe Bacon  Dec 29, 2022 • 11:04:12am

Here comes Trump’s #1 Groupie to apologize for him.

Maggie Haberman explains the key factors that are fueling Trump’s desire to run in 2024

rawstory.com

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BigPapa  Dec 29, 2022 • 11:04:27am

re: #296 Eclectic Cyborg

“Others think she body-shamed him.”

Yes, and those people are known as FUCKING IDIOTS.

She shamed his ego.

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Captain Ron  Dec 29, 2022 • 11:06:01am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2022 • 11:07:32am

re: #302 Captain Ron

Well, we knew it was coming soon.

I’m not a huge soccer fan, but Pele always seemed like a great ambassador of the sport and a good human being to me.

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 29, 2022 • 11:09:32am

re: #301 BigPapa

She shamed his ego.

And he responded like he does not know how free societies work. He acted like saying “how dare you” to a young lady would frighten her rather than make everyone but his broken fans laugh at the sad clown.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 29, 2022 • 11:11:50am

re: #302 Captain Ron

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We knew he was soon going to cross over the Rainbow Bridge.

Rest In Peace Great Man…

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2022 • 11:12:42am

re: #300 Joe Bacon

Here comes Trump’s #1 Groupie to apologize for him.

Maggie Haberman explains the key factors that are fueling Trump’s desire to run in 2024

rawstory.com

$, jail, ego a distant third

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 29, 2022 • 11:12:51am

re: #208 A Cranky One

Better than it should be:

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That was crazy good. Wow!

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BigPapa  Dec 29, 2022 • 11:13:06am

It’s sorta like Melania being shamed for her sexuality work and Trump being shamed for his health/virility. There is nothing wrong with sex work or being large, but the fact that it tweaks their supporters is the distinction. But we should be careful not to body shame or shame sex work in and of itself.

She didn’t shame his body, she shamed his ego.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 29, 2022 • 11:15:11am

We know she knew.

Melania Trump ‘knew something was going to happen’: former aide tells Jan. 6 Committee

Stephanie Grisham, a former aide to Melania Trump, told the Jan. 6 Committee that the then-first lady “knew something was going to happen” the day of the attack.

I wouldn’t be surprised to find out she was in on the planning.

rawstory.com

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 29, 2022 • 11:16:58am

re: #283 gocart mozart

Jonny Cash takes the piss it off Elvis. It I s sight to behold.

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wrenchwench  Dec 29, 2022 • 11:17:16am

re: #308 BigPapa

It’s sorta like Melania being shamed for her sexuality work and Trump being shamed for his health/virility. There is nothing wrong with sex work or being large, but the fact that it tweaks their supporters is the distinction. But we should be careful not to body shame or shame sex work in and of itself.

She didn’t shame his body, she shamed his ego.

Plus, automotive dick overcompensation is a meme unto itself. Which was self-inflicted, whatever you want to call that.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 29, 2022 • 11:17:42am
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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2022 • 11:17:50am

Um

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 29, 2022 • 11:18:15am

re: #296 Eclectic Cyborg

“Others think she body-shamed him.”

Yes, and those people are known as FUCKING IDIOTS.

Don’t be so polite.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 29, 2022 • 11:18:57am

Two years ago George Santos claimed to be half Black

Coming up next—George Of The Bungle will say he is half Vulcan and he had his ears trimmed!

316
Dangerman  Dec 29, 2022 • 11:19:33am

re: #309 Joe Bacon

We know she knew.

Melania Trump ‘knew something was going to happen’: former aide tells Jan. 6 Committee

Stephanie Grisham, a former aide to Melania Trump, told the Jan. 6 Committee that the then-first lady “knew something was going to happen” the day of the attack.

I wouldn’t be surprised to find out she was in on the planning.

rawstory.com

And who did you tell?

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2022 • 11:20:13am

re: #312 No Malarkey!

Arizona AG race decided by 280 votes after mandatory recount; Republican whines.

*every* vote counts

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2022 • 11:24:13am

re: #315 Joe Bacon

Two years ago George Santos claimed to be half Black

Coming up next—George Of The Bungle will say he is half Vulcan and he had his ears trimmed!

His mother, his grandparents, his religion, his work history, his home address, his education, his sexual orientation, his race, his birth date, his birthplace, his legal status, his personal wealth…

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 29, 2022 • 11:26:38am

re: #318 Dangerman

His mother, his grandparents, his religion, his work history, his home address, his education, his sexual orientation, his race, his birth date, his birthplace, his legal status, his personal wealth…

At this point I wouldn’t believe him if he said that he’s a carbon-based life-form. The man has a serious psychological problem.

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austin_blue  Dec 29, 2022 • 11:27:33am

re: #150 Dr. Matt

You can get shot in Texas for having beans in your chili.

You can get shot in Texas for going to church, to school, to the Wal-Mart, to the HEB, for being black, brown, white, or asian, for being Muslim, Jewish, Catholic, Sikh, Hindu, or Wiccan.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 29, 2022 • 11:29:25am

re: #320 austin_blue

You can get shot in Texas for going to church, to school, to the War-Mart, to the HEB, for being black, brown, white, or asian, for being Muslim, Jewish, Catholic, Sikh, Hindu, or Wiccan.

Don’t even think of farting in Texas…

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Orange Impostor  Dec 29, 2022 • 11:56:13am

re: #266 Belafon

Vin Diesel did it before him.

Only in the action movies he was in. Lest you forget, he was in “Saving Private Ryan”, was the robot in “The Iron Giant” and played Groot in the “Guardians of the Galaxy” franchise. He’s more diverse in his acting roles than a lot of people give him credit for.


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